Comments on: I’ve Been Attacked by a Leopard

By: Fuck your mouth

Fuck your mouth — Sat, 22 May 2010 01:15:05 +0000

Rob, you didn’t do anything wrong. But you are one of the funniest writers I’ve seen who actually banters back with these pseudo-erudite computer geniuses.

I mean seriously, “By all means, let’s not let facts get in the way of “Leopard love”.” Great.

By: Apple’s Leopard Mauls Early Adopters

Apple’s Leopard Mauls Early Adopters — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:51:18 +0000

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By: Sue

Sue — Mon, 12 May 2008 22:49:16 +0000

Sorry for the problems you had, it had to be so frustrating. We are fooling ourselves to think that no one will ever have a problem with this install. There is nothing perfect out there (including OSes, Software packages, Peripheral devices, humans etc). I am glad that we have the forums to help us in fixing our problems. Even those users that have had a seemingly GOOD experience with their LEOPARD installs, can recall when other installs, whether applications or device(s) did not go as well as expected.

No one on this forum, including those so-called-experts that choose not to say anything worthwhile, can state that everything has gone fine 100% of the time over the years (even with Apple products). Thank you to those that offer solutions and suggestions.

I am a windows user that has converted to MAC within the last year and I love my MAC (I am rarely on my PC at home, work is another matter). I do not expect perfect installs or perfect products. I do like forums such as these to help me when I need it.

Now to get to what I need to ask: I was successful in doing the Leopard “UPGRADE” install on my MacBook Pro. I backed up my laptop using “superduper” and the upgrade went smooth. I have not had any issues that I know of, although I have not opened every single application. I had set “Time Machine” to an external drive. I noticed the extra long logins and log outs. In addition, I ran out of space real quick since doing the LEOPARD UPGRADE and decided that I need to upgrade my internal hard drive. I have purchased Hitachi’s Travelstar 5k500 internal HD and plan to re-use the current hard drive as an external drive (OWC external case).

Based on the information from this forum, I have outline my steps:
1) Clean up old drive
2) Update software
3) Perform disk permissions and perform Cron jobs (maintenance)
4) CLONE the drive using the latest SuperDuper 2.5 (which I have and used on the last UPGRADE.)
5) Install Leopard using the “Archive/Install New OS” method

Question 1: I read in this particular forum how to change the ROOT password using the Leopard Install disk… Should I do this prior to my clean install of leopard? or after?

Question 2: Did I miss anything? (I already know about some software that I own that has troubles with Leopard that I may not bring those back over (Parallel for Desktop installed with Windows VISTA).

Sue

By: Rob Gilgan

Rob Gilgan — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:57:30 +0000

Installed Leopard on a PowerBook G4 (12″ aluminum) – using an external drive (internal has been pooched for a awhile). Went very smoothly, works perfectly, significant improvement over Tiger. 100 hours, you say? You aren’t given to hyperbole? That’s two and half weeks, working full time. Maybe you should spend less time dinking around with your computer – if you leave them alone, they seem to work pretty well.

By: Barton Hewett

Barton Hewett — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:09:33 +0000

I work in a mixed environment with mostly PC’s and I have to say that my preference is older PCs with XP which seem to run without any problems. The Vista machines are problematic because Vista is just not that mature. We have held back on upgrading the Macs as there is just not the time to be upgrading all the time and a stable machine is more important that a cutting edge one in many businesses and we have heard too many horror stories about Leopard.

In the meantime, the XP Machines chug away without problems which is why many of us don’t want MS to keep the OS for a few more years. Incidentally, we keep a rough tally on crashes and the MACs are definitely to most crash-prone.

XP may be boring, but it works and we get more useful working hours out of those machines than the MAC/VISTA ones.

By: jc

jc — Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:27:23 +0000

I have had problems not only with Leopard out of the box, but also as a “CPU drop-in disc” upgrade. Leopard has some problems that Tiger never had! USB 2.0 FAT32 discs report folder permissions problems on admin accounts… hard to even explain to anyone who doesn’t know what any of these things mean. I feel sorry for people who have been sold on the simplicity factor of Mac. They won’t know what any of these things mean. They just know they can’t delete folders for some unknown reason and that Windows doesn’t have any of these problems. Of course Mac zealots will come to the defense of Apple like religious fundamentalists. When Apple does something right, no one can do better and when they screw up, they haven’t really screwed up it’s our fault.
Tried formatting the drive to Mac OS Extended using Disk Utility… It would just hang…

Leopard seems to run slower on my new 24″ iMac than Tiger on my Powerbook G4. That should just not be.

Recent convert, won over by my Powerbook G4 with Tiger. Jaded by my unfortunate “upgrade” to Leopard. When Apple does something great, I can agree that it is in a caliber all its own. When they err, their mistakes are profoundly stupid. All in all, they now look like hypocrites. As for their commercials, I suppose they can get away with it. After all, setting the bar with Vista is pretty low.

By: Dale

Dale — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:24:13 +0000

Well all I can say is I have two imacs, a PPC and an Intel and both upgraded to leopard with out a hitch. With any new OS your bound to run into applications that cause some trouble and it sounds like you did. Now let me tell you a bout my Vista install. This was Ultimate 64 on a brand new system I built myself, all hardware was Vista compatible and had 64 bit drivers.I put the DVD in a fresh new system and low and behold just a few minutes into the install BSOD yes BSOD not an upgrade but a fresh install on a new system. I was beside myself with anger, I could not believe my eyes. After some time of running ram tests and removing hardware it was that I had 4 gigs of ram yes even though Vista 64 supports 128 gigs it dies on 4. I had to install Vista with 2 gigs, run some manual hot fixes and then add the other 2 gigs back in. Now each time I install Vista I will have to do this unless this is fixed is SP1 and I make a slip stream disc if possible. I was really hoping that with Vista none of this old crap would resurface, boy was I wrong. Since getting this issue fixed and a few other problems with NERO, which I have decided never to use again. The system has been pretty stable so far, have had some wacky stuff with games and but I contribute that to the drivers for the SLi setup. So I feel your pain, but not on my macs just the Windows front, I can honestly say my mac experiences have been fantastic.

By: robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » “Update: More Leopard Problems Plague Apple”

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:10:16 +0000

[...] I really did a number on Leopard when I broke it (or so many of my commenters would have you – or themselves – believe). I’ve done a full wipe [...]

By: George Kaplan

George Kaplan — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:02:37 +0000

There is a simple solution to the install mess: Expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised most of the time when your worst fears turn out to be unfounded.

I spent a few minutes the night before the upgrade and cleaned up my hard drive (tossed old programs, repaired permissions, etc), then used SuperDuper to make a clone of my drive to my FireLite drive. I did the upgrade install on a two-year old MacBook the next day. I kept the bootable copy of 10.4.10 on that drive for a week or two just in case, but reformatted the drive last night after the 10.5.1 update has performed without a hitch.

Within the family, we have upgraded an iMac G5 (iSight), 2 iMac (Core2Duo) and a PowerBook. No problems on any, each of which was approached in the same manner.

As for the MacBook, I didn’t have any squirrelly 3rd party utilities on it (like the password program) and all my apps were already Leopard-compatible, so that should have had sometime to do with my success. Again, I was prepared for any kind of bad behavior–there is that “expect the worst” thing again–but found none.

I haven’t yet had the first iChat since the Leopard upgrade (on both ends), which will be on Thanksgiving. If there is a problem, I will deal with it then. In the meantime, I don’t have a single complaint.

Likewise. I have done one Vista upgrade and by comparison to my Leopard experiences it was as lengthy and intolerable as traveling on a bus, with a drunken rugby team singing “99 Bottle of Beer on the Wall” repeatedly over a 12 hour ride. I don’t know how simple or complicated moving from XP to Vista is, compared from Tiger to Leopard, but the Windows upgrade made me drink. Others may have had no problems with Vista upgrades. As always, your mileage may vary, and if rash persists, discontinue use and see a Doctor.

I’m sorry you had the Leopard problems you recounted, but it has been smooth sailing on the Love Boat for me and the rest of my family. I don’t know that any reader should automatically extrapolate their ultimate experience from your post or mine. Just prepare for battle, take it slowly and carefully and I believe most results will echo my own.

By: Apple joins the real world | WinExtra

Apple joins the real world | WinExtra — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:16:15 +0000

[...] attitude was more than evident when people like Rob Hyndman, Robert Scoble and Dave Winer write posts about problems they have experienced with Leopard. They [...]