Comments on: Lieberman’s Revenge? http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/ any technology distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:12:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » That’s How You Do it Obama http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-48610 robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » That’s How You Do it Obama Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:29:42 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-48610 [...] The real issue, to my mind, is whether the political process is compatible with the core values of social media. Mathew notes this as well, with some doubt that campaigns are up to it. This is of course the conversation that Stowe had recently about PR, and it’s a very good point that can be equally made about most of our social institutions: authenticity is precisely what many try to avoid, and it’s hard to resist the conclusion that the rush to social media we’ve seen so far in this campaign is anything other than a cynical attempt to grab some headlines and get some “I’m with it” branding. I frankly doubt that’s true - the online success of the last Dean campaign and of netroots - except perhaps when it came to crunch time in Lieberman v. Lamont (entirely understandable, as a commenter briskly informed me some time ago) - tells us something about what the people want. And if enough people want it …. [...] [...] The real issue, to my mind, is whether the political process is compatible with the core values of social media. Mathew notes this as well, with some doubt that campaigns are up to it. This is of course the conversation that Stowe had recently about PR, and it’s a very good point that can be equally made about most of our social institutions: authenticity is precisely what many try to avoid, and it’s hard to resist the conclusion that the rush to social media we’ve seen so far in this campaign is anything other than a cynical attempt to grab some headlines and get some “I’m with it” branding. I frankly doubt that’s true - the online success of the last Dean campaign and of netroots - except perhaps when it came to crunch time in Lieberman v. Lamont (entirely understandable, as a commenter briskly informed me some time ago) - tells us something about what the people want. And if enough people want it …. [...]

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-24236 Rob Hyndman Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:46:08 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-24236 Thanks, Anon. I think I would have preferred the pony. Thanks, Anon. I think I would have preferred the pony.

]]> By: Anon http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-24131 Anon Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:05:21 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-24131 Whither netroots? They ran Lieberman - VP nominee Lieberman - off the Democratic ticket in the primaries. Then in the main election, the "netroots" candidate Lamont faced the full might of both the Democratic and Republican parties pulling for Lieberman to win, and Lamont still got 40% of the vote. What do you want, a pony? Shit, if the lesson here is "20-year Senate veterans who were their party's VP candidate and happen to have the other party pulling for them to win too are pretty hard to beat, even if the netroots are against them", well, I guess we've learned it. Whither netroots? They ran Lieberman - VP nominee Lieberman - off the Democratic ticket in the primaries. Then in the main election, the “netroots” candidate Lamont faced the full might of both the Democratic and Republican parties pulling for Lieberman to win, and Lamont still got 40% of the vote. What do you want, a pony?

Shit, if the lesson here is “20-year Senate veterans who were their party’s VP candidate and happen to have the other party pulling for them to win too are pretty hard to beat, even if the netroots are against them”, well, I guess we’ve learned it.

]]> By: robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » Lieberman’s Revenge, Redux http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-24059 robhyndman.com » Blog Archive » Lieberman’s Revenge, Redux Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:03:51 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-24059 [...] With George Allen’s concession, the Democrats will now have control of the Senate as well as the House. And I expect Joe Lieberman will make them pay for every square inch of it. Related Posts [...] [...] With George Allen’s concession, the Democrats will now have control of the Senate as well as the House. And I expect Joe Lieberman will make them pay for every square inch of it. Related Posts [...]

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-23950 Rob Hyndman Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:06:52 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-23950 "It's a good day to be Joe." I wish I'd used that as a title :). “It’s a good day to be Joe.” I wish I’d used that as a title :).

]]> By: Dave Hyndman http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-23949 Dave Hyndman Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:05:41 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/11/08/liebermans-revenge/#comment-23949 Joe just went from being a potential has-been to possibly being one of the most powerful dudes in DC. And Lieberman has far more experience than Jim Jeffords so he'll likely wield this unique position to far greater effect. It's a good day to be Joe. Joe just went from being a potential has-been to possibly being one of the most powerful dudes in DC. And Lieberman has far more experience than Jim Jeffords so he’ll likely wield this unique position to far greater effect. It’s a good day to be Joe.

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