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	<title>Comments on: The HP Saga: The HP Way &#8230; to Jail?</title>
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		<title>By: IT Blogwatch</title>
		<link>http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/09/08/the-hp-way-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-13416</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Blogwatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;HP&#039;s Bill and Dave roll in their graves...&lt;/strong&gt;

Step aside for IT Blogwatch, in which the HP board spying scandal rumbles on. Not to mention the pop-up potpourri for September......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>HP&#8217;s Bill and Dave roll in their graves&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Step aside for IT Blogwatch, in which the HP board spying scandal rumbles on. Not to mention the pop-up potpourri for September&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: robhyndman.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HP Saga: Focus Shifting to the General Counsel</title>
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		<dc:creator>robhyndman.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HP Saga: Focus Shifting to the General Counsel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Not generally unlawful&#8221; runs against the general grain of &#8220;legal expert&#8221; commentary that has been quoted in HP stories over the past few days, and it certainly runs into the brick wall of Viet Dinh&#8217;s comment I quoted yesterday:  â€œThe facts are not totally in,&#8217;â€™ Dinh said. â€œBut one thing that is clear is pretexting to get personal records is illegal under federal law and California law. Any lawyer who thinks that lying to get private telephone records is legal needs to evaluate his bar license.&#8217;â€™ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Not generally unlawful&#8221; runs against the general grain of &#8220;legal expert&#8221; commentary that has been quoted in HP stories over the past few days, and it certainly runs into the brick wall of Viet Dinh&#8217;s comment I quoted yesterday:  â€œThe facts are not totally in,&#8217;â€™ Dinh said. â€œBut one thing that is clear is pretexting to get personal records is illegal under federal law and California law. Any lawyer who thinks that lying to get private telephone records is legal needs to evaluate his bar license.&#8217;â€™ [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robhyndman.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HP Saga: Focus on Sonsini</title>
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		<dc:creator>robhyndman.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The HP Saga: Focus on Sonsini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Attention on the HP saga is starting to shift to the conduct of Larry Sonsini, an aspect I noted earlier today: the WSJ Law Blog and Paul Kedrosky.      Related Posts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Attention on the HP saga is starting to shift to the conduct of Larry Sonsini, an aspect I noted earlier today: the WSJ Law Blog and Paul Kedrosky.      Related Posts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart MacDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart MacDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 20:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all insanity, isn&#039;t it? You have to feel sorry for the legacy of H and P. There&#039;s been nothing but turmoil here for too long. What a terrible shame...

- Stuart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all insanity, isn&#8217;t it? You have to feel sorry for the legacy of H and P. There&#8217;s been nothing but turmoil here for too long. What a terrible shame&#8230;</p>
<p>- Stuart</p>
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		<title>By: mark evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s amazing - at least to me - that patricia dunn hasn&#039;t resigned already or been forced out. if she was the person who authorized the &quot;witch hunt&quot;, then she should be the one to take the fall. do you think she&#039;s related to frank dunn?..:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s amazing &#8211; at least to me &#8211; that patricia dunn hasn&#8217;t resigned already or been forced out. if she was the person who authorized the &#8220;witch hunt&#8221;, then she should be the one to take the fall. do you think she&#8217;s related to frank dunn?..:)</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice summary of the case. I was corresponding with a reporter colleague and asked was being on HP&#039;s pretexting list as a reporter the modern tech equivalent of being on Nixon&#039;s Enemies List? I know that reporters in the early 1970s were both appalled and delighted at times to be on that list. Appalled because it meant your entire history as recorded by the gummint was unveiled (tax records, FBI file, wiretapping, etc.), but delighted because it meant that you&#039;d actually gotten under the administration&#039;s skin. And who lost? Nixon. 

Who&#039;s going to lose this time around? Not just Dunn. I suspect that there will be a clean slate of directors, some perhaps indicted, others forced to resign, and we&#039;ll see Bill Hewlett appear from the mist to take the reins as chair. Crazy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice summary of the case. I was corresponding with a reporter colleague and asked was being on HP&#8217;s pretexting list as a reporter the modern tech equivalent of being on Nixon&#8217;s Enemies List? I know that reporters in the early 1970s were both appalled and delighted at times to be on that list. Appalled because it meant your entire history as recorded by the gummint was unveiled (tax records, FBI file, wiretapping, etc.), but delighted because it meant that you&#8217;d actually gotten under the administration&#8217;s skin. And who lost? Nixon. </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s going to lose this time around? Not just Dunn. I suspect that there will be a clean slate of directors, some perhaps indicted, others forced to resign, and we&#8217;ll see Bill Hewlett appear from the mist to take the reins as chair. Crazy?</p>
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