Comments on: FON Funding http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/ any technology distinguishable from magic is not sufficiently advanced Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:33:03 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: robhyndman.com http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-1078 robhyndman.com Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:45:23 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/#comment-1078 [...] Shortly after the recent FON financing announcement, several A list bloggers who were also on FON’s advisory board blogged the news. It certainly helped spread the FON news to generally praiseworthy reaction, until folks started questioning how ISPs would react (the FON plan would put bandwidth-sharers offside most ISP’s TOS), and certainly only until Speakeasy, a large ISP, denied that it had the relationship with FON that FON had apparently claimed (though the extent of this claim is still unclear). [...] [...] Shortly after the recent FON financing announcement, several A list bloggers who were also on FON’s advisory board blogged the news. It certainly helped spread the FON news to generally praiseworthy reaction, until folks started questioning how ISPs would react (the FON plan would put bandwidth-sharers offside most ISP’s TOS), and certainly only until Speakeasy, a large ISP, denied that it had the relationship with FON that FON had apparently claimed (though the extent of this claim is still unclear). [...]

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-1058 Rob Hyndman Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:46:56 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/#comment-1058 It's a very good point, Mark. I really don't know how you could design a FON Bill pricing schedule that would allow you to deal with tiered ISP pricing ... perhaps flat-rate your FON at the ISP's highest marginal rate? It’s a very good point, Mark. I really don’t know how you could design a FON Bill pricing schedule that would allow you to deal with tiered ISP pricing … perhaps flat-rate your FON at the ISP’s highest marginal rate?

]]> By: Mark Evans http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-1057 Mark Evans Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:37:29 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/#comment-1057 rob, one of the flaws i see in FON's model is they are relying on people to share their broadband access. what happens when ISPs start putting caps on these plans rather than all you can eat? rob,
one of the flaws i see in FON’s model is they are relying on people to share their broadband access. what happens when ISPs start putting caps on these plans rather than all you can eat?

]]> By: Glenn Fleishman http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-1056 Glenn Fleishman Mon, 06 Feb 2006 04:19:46 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/#comment-1056 "But perhaps the practical answer is the technical issue - how do the ISPs implement a ban, or at least distinguish between permanent sharing and mere passporting": In the US, at least, ISPs can act entirely arbitrarily towards their customers. Thus, they could institute ridiculous policies. If Fon traffic to their authentication centers are identified, an ISP could sent a threatening letter, and many users would back down rather than engage in the legal process. Fon could use peer-to-peer methods to obscure traffic to their centralized authentication passing packets to nodes on the ISP networks that are partners. On the other hand, if Fon really stresses that they will only allow their nodes to appear on ISP networks that allow this, my concerns are irrelevant. “But perhaps the practical answer is the technical issue – how do the ISPs implement a ban, or at least distinguish between permanent sharing and mere passporting”: In the US, at least, ISPs can act entirely arbitrarily towards their customers. Thus, they could institute ridiculous policies. If Fon traffic to their authentication centers are identified, an ISP could sent a threatening letter, and many users would back down rather than engage in the legal process.

Fon could use peer-to-peer methods to obscure traffic to their centralized authentication passing packets to nodes on the ISP networks that are partners. On the other hand, if Fon really stresses that they will only allow their nodes to appear on ISP networks that allow this, my concerns are irrelevant.

]]> By: mathewingram.com/work http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 mathewingram.com/work Mon, 06 Feb 2006 03:37:02 +0000 http://www.robhyndman.com/2006/02/05/fon-funding/#comment-1055 <strong>FON sounds great, but will it work?...</strong> It’s nice to hear that FON, the share-your-Wi-Fi network founded by entrepreneur Martin Varsavsky, has gotten an investment from Google, along with Skype founders Niklas Zenstrom and Janus Friis - but while that is a huge vote of confidence, it ... FON sounds great, but will it work?…

It’s nice to hear that FON, the share-your-Wi-Fi network founded by entrepreneur Martin Varsavsky, has gotten an investment from Google, along with Skype founders Niklas Zenstrom and Janus Friis – but while that is a huge vote of confidence, it …

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